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KV-4 (Object 224) Dukhov

Soviet Union (1941)
Super Heavy Tank – Blueprints Only

Tank design in the 1930s Soviet Union was a period of great experimentation and versatility, with designs ranging from jumping and flying tanks to super heavy multi-turreted ones. Yet as the Soviet tank industry matured, tank designs became more sensible and, by the late 1930s, some very promising vehicles were in development, such as the T-34 and KV-1. Nevertheless, with tensions rising in Europe after the German invasion of Czechoslovakia, Poland, and then France through the Benelux, Soviet engineers had to fall back to some older drastic ideas. One of these was the KV-4, one of the most curious heavy tank programs in Soviet tank history, as it involved a competition between dozens of designers.

Development

KV-4 designs
Placement Name Drawings Mass (t) Dimensions (m) (LxWxH) Armament Crew Top speed (theoretical) Armor Reward /Rubles
1 Dukhov KV-4 82.5 8.150
3.790
3.153
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm K-20
2x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
6 40 km/h Front top plate: 135 mm
Front bottom plate: 130 mm
Side plate: 125 mm
Top and belly: 40 mm
5000
2 Kuzmin, Tarotko, Tarapatin KV-4 88 9.26
3.78
3.175
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm K-20
2x 7.62 mm DS-39 machine guns
6 36 km/h Front: 125 mm
Side: 125-100 mm
Top and belly: 40 mm
3000
3 Tseits KV-4 90 8.85
4.03
3.62
107 mm ZiS-6
2x 7.62 mm DS-39 machine guns
Unspecified flamethrower
7 45 km/h Front hul upper plate: 50 mm
Front hull bottom plate: 125 mm
Turret:130 mm
Side plate: 125 mm
Top and belly: 50 mm
2800
4 Sychev KV-4 95 – 100 9.23
4.00
3.40
107 mm ZiS-6 (F-42)
45 mm 20-K
2x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
6 40 – 45 Turret: 135-125 mm
Hull: 105 mm
Top and belly: 40 mm
2000
4 Ermolaev KV-4 90 8.22
4.00
3.25
107 mm ZiS-6 6 35 130 mm
95 8.52
4.00
3.25
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
6 35 130 mm 2000
5 Shashmurin KV-4 92 9.50
4.00
3.85
107 mm ZiS-6 (F-42) main cannon (112 or 102 rounds)
76 mm F-11 secondary cannon (120 rounds)
2x 7.62 mm DT machine guns (400 rounds)
Unspecified flamethrower (hull)
7 35 km/h Front top plate: 125 mm
Side plate: 125 mm
Top and belly: 50 to 40 mm
1500
6 Buganov KV-4 93 7.70
3.80
3.90
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
6 50 km/h Front 125 mm 1000
6 Moskvin KV-4 101 9.573
4.03
3.74
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
6 40 km/h Front 130 mm 1000
7 Pereverzev KV-4 100 9.5
3.8
3.82
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
2x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
6 39 km/h Front: 125 mm 500
7 Bykov KV-4 98.6 9.5
4.03
3.65
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
7.62 mm DS-39 machine gun
8 36 km/h Front 130 mm 500
7 Kalivod KV-4 500
N/A Fedorenko KV-4 98.65 8.10
4.03
3.70
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm M.1938
3x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
Unspecified flamethrower
6 35 km/h Front upper plate: 140 mm
Side plate: 125 mm
Turret: 125 mm
Top and belly: 50 to 40 mm
N/A Kreslavsky KV-4 92.6 9
4
3.225
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm Mod.1937 20-K coaxial
3x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
6 45 km/h Turret: 130 mm
Front hull plate: 130 mm
Front upper plate: 80 mm
Side plate: 125 mm
Rear plate: 130 mm
Top /bottom: 50 -40 mm
N/A Kruchenykh KV-4 107.7 9.13
4.03
3.78
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
4x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
9 30 km/h Front: 130 mm
N/A Mikhailov KV-4 86.5 9
3.6
3
107 mm ZiS-6 (F-42)
45 mm Mod.1937 20-K (hull-mounted)
3x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
6 50 km/h Turret: 130 mm
Hull: 130 mm
Belly and belly: 50 – 40 mm
N/A Marishkin KV-4 86.4 8.7
3.6
3.5
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
7 40 km/h Front: 130 mm
Upper frontal: 80 mm
N/A Pavlov & Grigorev KV-4 91 8.5
4.0
3.6
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
6 45 km/h Front: 100 – 125 mm
N/A Turchaninov KV-4 89.5 9.8
4.0
3.0
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
DT machine gun
7 35 km/h Front: 125 mm
N/A Strukov KV-4 92 8.6
4.0
3.8
107 mm ZiS-6
45 mm 20-K
6 50 km/h Front: 80 – 130 mm
N/A Unknown KV-4
N/A Unknown KV-4

On 11th March, 1941, the GABTU (Main Directorate of Armoured Forces) was informed by the Soviet Intelligence services of the existence of new German heavy tank projects. The report, naturally, was a mixed bag of real information and rumours. It is important to note that, while the Soviet Union and Nazi Germany were more or less allies during this period, tensions were high and any sort of technological advancement of the opposition had to be met with a proportional (or, in this case, disproportional) response.

The document received was titled “The direction of development of the German armed forces and changes in their state” and discussed several tank projects. When it came to heavy tanks, a chart presenting 3 tank models was shown:

  1. Mark V (36 tonnes, 75 mm gun, 2x machine guns, ≤ 60 mm of armor)
  2. Mark VI (45 tonnes, 75 mm gun, 20 mm gun, 3x machine guns, ≤ 70 mm of armor)
  3. Mark VII (90 tonnes, 105 mm gun, 2x 20 mm gun, 4x machine guns, unknown armor)

The report also mentioned, based on unconfirmed information, 72 tonne French tanks (possibly the Char 2C, which weighed 69 tonnes) present at the occupied Renault factory, in addition to 60 and 80 tonne tanks being built at Škoda and Krupp.

On the one hand, the Germans had indeed begun development of several heavy tanks, such as the 30-and 36-tonne projects (VK30.01(H) and VK36.01(H)). A month after the original Soviet report, in May, the Germans decided that, for 1942, the armor of future heavy tanks had to be improved. This would consist of 100 mm of frontal armor and 60 mm at the side. In terms of heavier vehicles, the VK65.01 appeared in January 1939.

Interestingly, the Pz. Kpfw. VII, commonly known as the Löwe, with its many variants and stages, would not appear until November of 1941, with development starting in December. Mentions of a tank armed with a 15 cm L/40 existed earlier on. This begs the question on what the Soviet report was based on. It was very likely a combination of several tank designs and proposals, alongside rumours and speculations, likely cherry picked to sound as alarming as possible.

To put things into perspective, during this period, the best heavy tank in Soviet service was the KV-1, armed with the 76 mm L-11, meant as a stopgap until the introduction of the F-32 gun, which was not a significant improvement anyway. These guns were seen as problematic, especially by armament designer V.G. Grabin, but the political rush to push the KV-1 into production and military service left it with considerable faults and problems, including the armament and the infamous gearbox, which, it must be noted, was designed by N.L. Dukhov himself. The most important aspect of the KV-1 was its armor, with 90 mm at the front of the turret and 75 mm at the front of the hull. By 1941, the Soviets had several improvements of the KV-1 in the works, including the T-150 and KV-220, which brought more armor and better armament. With hindsight, the KV-220, with its 85 mm F-30 gun and 100 mm of armor all around, would have been (on paper) on par with the German Tiger I, which entered production only in August of 1942, 1.5 years later. It seems it would have been rather reliable, running 967 km with the V-5 700 hp engine (only needing 2 idlers, a torsion bar, 6 idler axles replaced and shearing 2 teeth in the transmission and destroying the eyelet of the clutch) after the 2 V-2N supercharged experimental engines broke.

Nonetheless, the Soviet authorities did not take the report lightly and immediately ordered work on an even heavier tank. It was expected that the gun used would be the 105 mm Flak 39. The Soviets had previously purchased this gun in 1940 for testing and, after firing trials, it was noted that a tank required 130 mm of armor or more to withstand fire from it. The Kirov Leningrad plant’s SKB-2 design bureau was tasked with the design of the new tank. At the same time, they were working on the KV-3, at the time a 50-tonne heavy tank, already superior to any German tank at the time. The Kirov plant had also worked on the T-150 and KV-220 tanks, which were further developments of the KV-1.

Technical requirements

Design and technical requirements were given only 10 days after the initial report, on 21st March, 1941. The new super heavy tank was named KV-4 (the acronym KV stands for Kliment Voroshilov, People’s Commissar for Defense of the Soviet Union until 1940) and received the GABTU designation Object 224. It was to weigh around 70 to 72 tonnes, with a frontal armor of 130 mm, side armor of 120 mm, and 40 mm on the belly and top. The main armament was to consist of the ZiS-6 F-42 107 mm gun. It was meant to have a full traverse range of 360° (though a handful of designs would mount the gun in a casemate with limited traverse). Elevation was to be between 15° to 17° and depression between -2° and -3°. Secondary armament would consist of a 45 mm gun (model 1937 or 1938) and 3 DT machine guns; one coaxial, one in the turret bustle and one at the front of the hull. Mounting of a 76 mm ZiS-5 gun was also desired as an alternative to the ZiS-6, though this was eventually dropped. A flamethrower was also mentioned for protection against approaching infantry.

The powerplant was meant to be a 1,200 hp engine, with the tank reaching an estimated top speed of 35 km/h. However, since there were no such powerful engines available at the moment, the 850 hp V-2SN was to be used as a temporary fix. For the KV-5 (and potentially the KV-4 as well), mounting 2 V-2SN was also considered until the M-40s were ready. Eventually, LKZ managed to produce 58 M-40 engines by August. Another variant was considered, the M-50, giving out 1,000 hp, which was meant for torpedo boats. The fuel was meant to last for 10 hours of continuous driving, in conditions between -40° and 40° Celsius. The gearbox had to be an automatic planetary type and the brakes had to hold up the tank’s weight on a 45° slope angle. The crew was to be composed of 6 men: Commander, gunner, loader, turret mechanic (loader assistant), driver, and radio operator, with the last two in the hull.

On 27th March, the Council of Ministers of the USSR released the plans for the development of the heavy tanks, presenting the deadlines of the development process. The LKZ plant was to provide drawings by 17th July, Plant No. 92 to deliver a 107 mm ZiS-6 and 76 mm ZiS-5 by 1st September and Izhora plant in Leningrad to build the hull and turret by 1st October. In terms of powerplants, the V-2SN and M-40 engines were considered. From a letter dated 30th May, the development (from blueprints to prototype testing and improvement) of the KV-4 was expected to cost 3,100,000 Roubles, while the KV-5 was estimated at 3,600,000 Roubles. Just the construction and factory trials of the KV-4 were estimated at around 1,800,000 Roubles. To put this into perspective, the production of a single KV-1 was around 295,000 Roubles (May 1942).

In an interesting turn of events, by 7th April the plans were changed entirely. The KV-3 program was revitalized, with the weight increased to 68 tonnes, armor increased to 120 mm and mounting a 107 mm gun. Consequently, in a letter to LKZ factory director I.M. Zaltsman, the KV-4 requirements were increased to a weight of 75 tonnes, 135 mm (some sources claim as much as 140 to 150 mm) of armor on frontal areas, and 125 mm on the sides and rear. The deadline for the blueprints was brought forward to 15th June. The hull and turret were expected on 15th August. Simultaneously, the KV-5 was brought to life. It was to be a response to the so-called ‘Pz.Kpfw.VII’, with a mass of 90 tonnes, frontal armor 170 mm thick, and 150 mm thick on the sides. It was to be built by 10th November.

The turrets had to be of welded and stamped construction, as castings at these thicknesses were not technologically possible at the time. Another issue with the armor was the connection. The Soviet armor industry could barely handle welding 75 mm armor plates, let alone anything above 125 mm. This issue was partially solved on the KV-5 (which got further into its developmental stage), where steel rods would be pushed and welded in holes drilled through the two armored plates, which in turn would be laid onto one another.

The main gun required between 70 and 80 rounds of ammunition. To top it all off, in a letter from the chief or the Main Auto and Armour Directorate of the Armoured Forces to the LKZ and Izhor factories, the prototypes of KV-4 (and KV-5) were expected to be completed and enter the testing phase by 1942.

Connecting pins for the large steel plates. This system was used on the KV-5, and likely on the KV-4 as well. The German Maus used them as well. Note, however, that the Soviet counterparts did not use interlocking plates, but rather L-shaped connections.
Source: Andrew Hills

Drawing competition

Work began on the KV-4 at Kirov on 10th April. The head designer was J. Y. Kotin. Considering that the tanks were to be designed from scratch, Kotin decided upon doing a competition. After getting Zaltsman onboard, they decided to even give prizes for the best designs. Most of the engineers at the Kirov SKB-2 design bureau would participate in the competition. No details were given about the layout, prompting a variety of unique and creative designs. However, a bit of confusion seems to have risen regarding specific details, as the specifications set up at LKZ did not entirely match the ones requested by the GABTU. The mass was set between 80 and 100 tonnes, armament consisting of the ZiS-6 107 mm and a 45 mm gun mod.1937, with the second gun meant for zeroing in the main gun and for dealing with softer targets. The Soviet military allegedly requested a flamethrower as well, but some designs lack it.

By 9th May, the competition was over and the winners were announced by I.M. Saltzman. In total, 27 different designs were submitted (excluding different variations of the same design). In first place came N.L. Dukhov, who received 5,000 Roubles. Second place was given to a design made by 3 engineers, K.I. Kuzmin, P.S. Tarapatin, and V. I. Tarotko, who received 3,000 Roubles to be split between them. On third place came N.V. Zeits, who received 2,800 Roubles. The list continues to the 7th spot, with many places having several designs. Unfortunately, some designs have been lost to time, and some designs have unknown authors, or some lost drawings. From the 11 ‘winning’ designs, only Kalivoda’s project is missing blueprints. Kotin himself received 3,100 Rubles for leading the engineering team. To put these sums in perspective, a soldier would be awarded 500 rubles for destroying an enemy tank on the front.

Designer name Place Prize received (Rubles)
N.L. Dukhov 1 5,000
K.I. Kuzmin, P.S. Tarapanin and V. I. Tarotko 2 3,000
N.V. Tseits 3 2,800 (2,000 according to another archive document)
L.E. Sychev 4 2,000
A.S. Ermolaev 4 2,000
N.F. Shashmurin 5 1,500
K.I. Buganov 6 1,000
G.N. Moskvin 6 1,000
L.N. Pereverzev 7 500
V. Bykov 7 500
Kalivoda 7 500

Other engineers who presented designs but did not receive any awards were F.A. Marishkin, S.V. Federenko, M.I. Kreslavsky, V. Pavlov and D. Grigorev, P. Mikhailov, G. Turchaninov, N. Strukov, and 2 other unnamed designers.

Despite the exciting competition, the progress was slow. By 12th June, 3 days prior to the deadline, Marshal of the Soviet Union G.I. Kulik sent a letter to LKZ demanding the speed-up of the design process. Yet the drawings were never submitted. Just 10 days later, on 22nd June 1941, German forces began their invasion of the Soviet Union.

The GABTU decided that the KV-3, which was in an advanced stage, would continue development and be implemented as a stopgap measure until the KV-4 and KV-5 were ready. These two would be tested against each other and the winner would be produced. Development of the KV-5 continued until August, albeit at a much slower rate, when the Germans had already reached Leningrad. The workers and engineers at LKZ, including SKB-2, were moved to ChKZ in Chelyabinsk.

N. L. Dukhov

The winner of the KV-4 competition, Nikolai Leonidovich Dukhov, was born in 1904 in Veprik, in modern day Ukraine. He was behind several Soviet tank projects. In his first years as an engineer, he worked at the Putilovets tractor factory, on the Universal tractor. In 1936, he worked on his first tank project, a modernization of the T-28. A few years later, his team at the LKZ (Kirov) SKB-2 design bureau was responsible for designing the KV-1 heavy tank. After the Siege of Leningrad, SKB-2 was moved to ChKZ, from where he continued designing tanks. Other noteworthy tanks designed under his leadership were the KV-1S, KV-2, KV-85, KV-13, IS, IS-2, IS-3, and IS-4.

After 1948, he was involved in the Soviet nuclear program, being deputy chief designer at KB-11 (since 1992 known as the ‘Russian Federal Nuclear Center’) and participated in the development and testing of the RDS-6s thermonuclear hydrogen bomb, with a yield between 400 to 500 kt. In 1954, he became chief director and supervisor at branch No.1 of KB-11, which still bears his name to this day. He led it until his death in 1964, at just 59 years. He received 3 Hero of Socialist Labour medals, 4 Lenin Orders, 5 Stalin Prizes, the Lenin Prize, the Order of Suvorov, the Order of the Red Banner of Labour, the Order of the Red Star, the medal for Labour Valour, the Medal For the Victory over Germany in the Great Patriotic War 1941–1945, the Medal for Valiant Labour in the Great Patriotic War 1941–1945, the Jubilee Medal 30 Years of the Soviet Army and Navy, and the Jubilee Medal 40 Years of the Armed Forces of the USSR.

Nikolai Leonidovich Dukhov, one of the most important Soviet tank designers of the Second World War, in charge of designing some of the most iconic Soviet tanks, like the KV-1.
Source: Wikipedia.ru

Dukhov’s design

Dukhov presented at least 4 drawings of his proposal, one side view of the entire tank, one cutout top view of the turret, one partial cutout of the hull and one showing the automated round lifting system. The design was very similar to the KV-220, a tank designed with L.E. Sychev and B.P. Pavlov (both of whom submitted KV-4 designs), but much larger. The hull was essentially an up-armored and lengthened KV-1 hull, with 8 wheels per side, sprung by torsion bars. Other details and components remained mostly identical to those of previous prototypes and of the KV-1 mod.1941. The exact number of return rollers is unknown, but comparing to previous designs, 4 appears most likely. Curiously, the rear engine deck plate was angled downwards, similar to the KV-1S. His design was the lightest of all KV-4 designs, estimated at ‘just’ 82.5 tonnes.

The single KV-220 prototype, armed with an 85 mm F-30 gun. It served as a basis for the KV-3 tank, and as a great inspiration for Dukhov and his KV-4 drawings.
Source: Tank Archives, colorized by Smargd123

The main engine considered was the M-40 aviation engine, developed at LKZ (after the original designer, A.D. Charomsky, was arrested in 1938, during the Purges). It had an output of 1,000 horsepower (later improved to 1,200) with 12 cylinders arranged in a V-shape, and 4 TK-88 turbochargers. Displacement was of 91.07 liters. Since it was based on an aviation engine, it could run on both diesel and kerosene, allegedly even gasoline. With such a powerplant, Dukhov expected his design to reach an optimistic 40 km/ top speed. There was also an upgraded version, the M-40F, delivering up to 1,500 hp. The other engine considered was the V-2SN, which was an upgraded variant of the classic V-2 12 cylinder engine. It was boosted with a turbocharger to 850 hp.

Side cutout view of Dukhov’s KV-4. The similarities to the KV-220 are very clear.
Source: ASKM

The turret designed by Dukhov was also similar to the KV-220, with the main difference being that the frontal plate (mostly covered by the mantlet) was angled, as opposed to flat like on previous KV tanks. A total of 4 plates were used for the turret, with the frontal plate angled at circa 20° and 130 mm thick. The side armor plate would have been circa 125 mm thick and stamped into shape. The rear plate was flat and 125 mm thick. On top of the main turret, a smaller turret was added armed with a DT machine gun. This turret had circa 3 vision periscopes for the commander. Another 4 periscopes were scattered around the turret to give vision to the rest of the crew members.

Top view of the turret, with view of the two guns and turret floor.
Source. ASKM

In terms of placement of the 6 crewmen, the driver and radioman were placed in the hull, in identical positions to other KV series tanks. The gunner was seated to the right of the 107 mm gun, while the commander was standing behind him, operating the cupola. As for the loaders, one was seated to the right of the 45 mm gun and was tasked with loading it and lifting ammunition for the 107 mm. The other loader was standing behind the main gun and had the task of loading the main gun. They used a 10-R intercom for communication between each other.

Top view of Dukhov’s hull, the front of the hull has been cut out. The ammunition loading system can be seen, using special components holding the shells by the ends.
Source: ASKM

Armament

The KV-4 used the F-42 ZiS-6 107 mm as the main gun. It was designed by the iconic V.G. Grabin at factory No.92. First appearing in documentation in December 1940 as the F-42, but renamed to ZiS-6 in March 1941. The gun was ready by 14th May, taking only 38 days to design according to Grabin himself, after both Marshal of the Soviet Union Kulik and Stalin spoke to Grabin about the issue, though a phonecall between Grabin and Stalin revealed that the gun had to be designed in 45 days. Plant No-92 was forced to work ahead of schedule, and on 27th May, sent a gun to LKZ for mounting on the KV-2 for testing. Yet the Izhora plant, tasked with making the turret for the test ring, using a KV-3 gun mount, was progressing very slowly. On 18 June, Marshal Kulik had to intervene (again), for the Izhora plant to finish the turret. Testing finally began on 25th June and ended on 5th July. After the initial test, faults were fixed, and the gun was deemed ready for production. Serial production began at the New Sormovo plant in July. But, according to Grabin’s memoirs, the lack of cooperation and work from the tank factories was a large dissapointment.

The production of the ZiS-6 increased daily. But there was still no sign of the tank for which the gun was intended. Even after the beginning of the war, the Kirov plant did not deliver a single tank. The lack of the new tank forced us to limit production and eventually, cancel it. It is difficult and embarrassing to write about this, in those days when everything that could shoot, even museum pieces, were sent to the front, around 800 gun barrels had to be sent back to the melting furnace

– V.A. Grabin, extract from his memoirs.

In September, the ZiS-6A was discussed for the KV-4, which involved the mounting of a 45 mm gun coaxially, but it remained just an idea, mostly because of the abandonment of the KV-4.

The KV-2 fitted with an 107 mm ZiS-6 and the KV-3 gun mantlet in June 1941.
Source: Thinky via WT forums

In terms of technical data, the ZiS-6 had an muzzle velocity of 800 to 840 m/s. Ammunition was one-piece and weighed 18.8 kg. The breech lock was mounted vertically and was semiautomatic. It could allegedly penetrate 115 mm of armor at 1,000 m.

Regarding secondary armament, Dukhov fitted his design with a coaxial 45 mm mod.1937. With a muzzle velocity of 750 m/s, it would be used for ranging in the main gun, while also engaging targets that would not require the main 107 mm gun. Loading would be done by any of the two loaders. There was no firing mechanism designed for it, but it was likely fired independently from the main gun by the gunner. The tank also had at least two DT machine guns, one mounted in a ball mount in the hull, and the other in the secondary turret on the top of the main turret. Ammunition for it was stowed in the hull, on both sides of the turret ring.

Dukhov had envisioned 2 ways to load the main gun. The first was the classic way, by simply lifting the ammunition stored in the floor of the tank’s hull. There must have been a form of turret floor, as the entire hull floor was peppered with ammunition. This was in no way a simple endeavour, but with two loaders, it was a realistic task. The second option was a semiautomatic loader system, which had a system that would lift up the shells from the hull to the same level to the gun breech, from where the loader could load them in. The shells would be lifted by a chain-like system, in-line with the gun breech. These would be stored across the hull, and would have been required to be placed manually in the lifting system.

View of the loading layout and system proposed by N.L. Dukhov for his KV-4.
Source: ASKM

German invasion

Even after the German attack on the Soviet Union, work on tanks continued at LKZ. For the KV-5, the engineers who had received the top places in the KV-4 competition (except the 3 in second place) would work together on the KV-5. This gained traction and blueprints were being drawn, including the turret, hull and running gear components. As for the KV-4, there was barely any progress. Dukhov’s design was awarded as the best, but what this truly meant for the KV-4 is all speculation. Whether Dukhov’s would have been the main layout of the final KV-4 prototype is unknown. Work continued on the KV-5 and KV-3 until August, by which time the Germans were quickly approaching Leningrad. To deal with this, the SKB-2 design bureau was evacuated to ChKZ in Chelyabinsk. There, work on the KV-4 and KV-5 would not resume, as they were seen as a large waste of time and money when the Soviet Union needed tanks yesterday.

With the KV-1 seeing combat against the Germans, it was truly confirmed how unprepared for service it truly was. Dozens of reports came in about transmission and gearbox failures, the vehicle being too heavy and slow, and crews preferring the T-34. The situation got so serious that Stalin himself said that, if the issues would not be fixed, the KV production would be discontinued. This obviously came as a serious blow to LKZ engineers, which immediately began improving the KV.

Additionally, the conspired German heavy tanks never came. Thus, all unnecessary heavy KV projects were left behind and work was focused on improving the KV-1. The work eventually resulted in the heavily praised KV-1S, experimental KV-13 and, finally, the iconic IS.

The KV-4 designed by Dukhov, as represented in the MMO World of Tanks by Wargaming.net.
Source: Wargaming.ne

Conclusion

Arguably one of the most interesting Soviet heavy tanks of the Second World War, the KV-4 was not just a massive vehicle, but also involved the interesting competition tactic which would not be applied again by Soviet designers. This brought a variety of interesting and unique ideas. However, no matter how advanced or revolutionary the KV-4 designs were, the entire program was simply too expensive and worthless, especially once the Soviets had entered war against the Axis. The program was not without its merits.

Dukhov’s KV-4 incorporated an efficient and trialed design into what was seen as the most successful KV-4 variant. It was the lightest, simplest, and almost a natural evolution from the KV-220. Equally interesting, he envisioned a partially automated loading system, with shells being lifted to the level of the gun breech. This gave him the victory against all the other engineers, but it was to no avail.

The KV-4 as designed by N. L. Dukhov. Illustration by Pavel Alexe.

KV-4 Dukhov’s variant specifications

Dimensions (L-W-H) 8.150 – 3.790 – 3.153 m
Total Weight, Battle Ready 82.5 tonnes
Crew 6 (Commander, Gunner, Driver, Radio operator, loader & turret mechanic/loader assistant)
Propulsion 1,200 hp diesel V-12 M-40 with 4 turbochargers
Speed 40 km/h (hypothetical)
Suspension Torsion bar, 8 wheels per side
Armament 107 mm ZiS-6 (F-42)
45 mm Mod.1937 coaxial
2x 7.62 mm DT machine guns
Armor Front top plate: 135 mm
Front bottom plate: 130 mm
Side plate: 125 mm
Top and belly: 40 mm
Total Production 0; blueprints only

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18 replies on “KV-4 (Object 224) Dukhov”

“Nevertheless, with tensions rising in Europe after the German invasion of Czechoslovakia, Poland, and then France through the Benelux, Soviet engineers had to fall back to some older drastic ideas.”

You mean after German invasion of Czechoslovakia, German and Soviet invasion of Poland, then German invasion of France through etc?

Soviet union was not a passive player at the stage.

German agression was seen as a threat, despite the alliance between the two nations. That is why this program existed in the first place.

GABTU is not the cheif directorate of armed forces, it’s a Cheif Directorate of Motorised and Armored Forces. Not sure if counts as a mistake, but i’ll still point it out just to make sure

One of the rare instances when World Of Tanks gets a paper vehicle right. Another notable instance would be the IS-2U, the IS-2 pike nose project competing with the Kirovets-1, although it is found in the Chinese tech tree under the name 110.

1. Most of WoT’s paper vehicles are “right”, solely on account of them being paper… and not made up.

2. But if we’re talking about it’s implementation… it has a couple modelling errors which are not true to the blueprints, and in top configuration it posses another turret, and a never intended gun. The WoT KV-4 is not right in that sense.

Absolutely. The top turret on the WoT KV-4 appears to be from the Moskvin design, and while it is modelled mostly correct (as you mentioned, some details are off), Moskivn’s hull design was slightly different, making it unhistorical. But for the purposes for understanding and visualization og Dukhov’s desgin, the “stock” KV-4 as represented in WoT is good enough. I hope this clears things up.

Is it possible to get an interior view of Dukhov’s design like you did with Mikhailov’s? I’m currently doing a 3D model of the Dukhov, and I’d like to flesh out the interior of this machine. That would be bloody awesome.

I’m also not entirely sure why the page for KV-4 Mikhailov is more specific with details like crew placement and armor details. Why is that so? Does the Mikhailov design simply have more documentation to it than Dukhov somehow?

Hi.
The reason for why the Mikhailov received a semi-interior illustration was to highlight that the sideskirt was part of the side armor. Layout wise, some components can be seen in the blueprints. The turret however might be a bit more complex.

I’m actually kind of baffled how the DT machine gun can fit into the miniturret of Dukhov’s design the way he drew it. I’m making a 3D model of Dukhov’s KV-4, and the DT machine gun literally popped out the back of the miniturret. Did I make the machine gun too big or did Dukhov forget to take that into account?

Image reference: https://imgur.com/dXtzHrM

Hey Pavel, I’ve gone much further with modelling the KV-4 Dukhov’s interior. I just realized a small complication with Dukhov’s miniturret, in the fact that the commander’s position actually interferes with the 107 mm gun breech (he ends up sitting right on the left side of the gun, right leg probably in the way of the breech). I followed the mini-turret dimensions according to the side view-cutaway blueprint, so it shouldn’t be oversized, and I took into account the armor thickness of the turret, so it’s a bit more cramped inside (it’s not very obvious on the model but there is the ‘interior wall’ of the turret). I’m sure Dukhov had thought of this but the miniturret is really odd.

Image: https://imgur.com/a/gwePbIR

The commander was seated to the right of the mini turret machine gun, in which case he should be out of the way of the breech/recoil. Still, seems pretty tight and scary.

Sorry Pavel, so to clarify, according to the screenshot of the KV-4 interior I made:
The commander would be seated slightly closer to the left turret side (out of the way of the gun breech) and NOT directly underneath the cupola? And yeah, it is *really* cramped in there for such a large tank. XD

Hello, I’m modelling the KV-4 for a scale modelling project and I was wondering if you have any more drawings. Your MG turret sketch came in very helpfull.

Do you think the KV-4 would’ve had power traverse of some kind, or would its turret be hand cranked like the rest of the KV series?

I have not seen any mentions of power traverse. Though id be surprised if it were handcranked considering the turret and gun were at least 10 tonnes, likely more. It would have had to be exceptionally well balanced.

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